When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl.- Shindong. A group of girls still tried it the first night. and our The problematic answer came during a conversation with a 14-year-long fan called A. He likes this identity so I don't understand why you are trying to hate on someone who said what he saw. labelling everything as "problematic" doesn't really account for that. march 28 2015 in the bts begin show yoongi said jhope was the darkest guy hed seen and namjoon proceeded to say that jhope was as dark as tv, may 13 2015 during bon voyage jimin called jungkook a kkamdoongie bc jungkook had tanned, 2015 summer package: jimin said that if he got to tanned he might be so dark that they wouldnt be able to see him in their upcoming music video, druing the same summer package namjoon compared jungkook to michol a korean blackface character because he had tanned, may 18 2015 jungkook caled namjoon baked egg! referencing namjoons skin tone, jhope laughed then asked namjoon why he was so tan, june 2015 during an australian interview namjoon made a colorist comment about his fellow band members taehyung and jhope, interviewer- what was your first impression when you first met each other, namjoon - when i first saw V and jhope i couldnt see them because they were to blackso yeah when- when the nights get dark i couldnt find them, july 13 2015 in an interview yoongi and jin said taehyung was so dark they thought he was wearing stocking because the color of his legs, august 25 2015 namjoon once again did his special talent which was black english on a variety show. Highly recommended. I know your sacrifices. and no one wants to be called a pedophile. mentally well adjusted person, lets put it that way. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. Map updates are paused. Just so long as you come at less busy hours. aren on Twitter: "Super Junior Problematic // A Thread ^^ Here are some At the Noodle Cart: Korean edition [May 2020]. Technical Project Manager. "Of course, I can see why he is popular. Super Junior member Shindong has drawn major online flak after his supposed commentary on Taemin's music video ' Advice ' went viral. Ive seen a different side to Shindong thats warm, funny and talented, not a fat shaming pig. The more optics are observed, the stronger your points will eventually be! But still can not wait to laugh at the next disbandment thats is not sujus, 18 years and counting . i don't even hate them i just try to ignore them as much as possible, but it's true that i don't really like them since they have been so problematic. let us gather around for the lords prayer: Nvis we love you. The fact that Super Junior isnt getting the respect they deserve as legends makes me so angry. they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. Super Junior Heechul is once again criticized by K-netizens following his remarks. Netflix Unveils Line Up of Their Upcoming 2023 K-Content! Ralica Parusheva - Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Nederland - LinkedIn Have you looked into how these specific comments and statements played out in the nation itself? 155, 621, 700), Battle Again: The Battle of Famous Singers, Street Alcohol Again: Street Alcohol Fighter Special, Story of the Day When You Bite Your Tail Season 3, Baek Jong Won's National Food: Global Food Edition. What annoys me the most is those hating on Shindong for fatshaming, yet doing the same to him. Great post! I guess it goes to show you your faves are problematic. but a lot of people will say they hate suju, while supporting their bias who did similar things. i know we live in a world where fat men do have it easier than fat women, but that doesn't erase their struggles when it comes to being fat. he is really known problematic idol at his age. as long as they're behaving, let them stay (and this applies to everyone, regardless of age). they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, on a variety show namjoon joked about getting off to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs), oct 11 2017 jhope had braids again for a mic drop performance. A lot of those have come with apologies, some haven't, as is kpop tradition. Providing a more global perspective would help you when discussing these posts, especially so that you contextualize the discussions appropriately in the terms they are created in, before zooming out and reviewing them from the American/Western perspective. Cookie Notice super junior's problematic past (a powerpoint) (slightly outdated!!) 4. super junior have said/done problematic* things -- this reasoning is last because while its often tauted as the reason for disliking them, this reason is the most flimsy, especially considering who we all stan. as a minor accusing an adult. have beef with the word problematic. I thought so. Totally different topic: Musical - adaptations of dramas! We heard that Amsterdam had good Indonesian food and decided to give it a go. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! However the food quality and portion size was excellent in relation to the price. people used this same argument to defend trump with the tape video. Fast forward to 2015 and he played a character who was openly okay with gay and shared many homoerotic scenes with his fellow cast member. super junior is but one example of this, but there are many more. Amsterdam is overpriced for food to begin with, but milking more out of what is a decent and overpriced rice dinner to begin with is just too much. this framing is spawned from their mature concepts, reputation as a gag group, and the fact that they were already past their activity peak when the new wave of kpop fans came in. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. [Hidden Singer] (Ep. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy. #8. Two other members of Super Junior have been found fat-shaming. Such wheeling and dealing is not respectable to begin with - and contradicts the menu. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. He is a real man. add this to the unfortunate comments and actions certain members have said, or are thought to have said, and super junior go from being old men to being lecherous old men. they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. Wellwhat can I say, a big mistake it was. THIS Former K-pop Idol is Now University Professor! I dont know. Our group of 5 went with the Rice Table Aneka as suggested by our server. He loves sports too. Why Is Super Junior Problematic at Korea We were not disappointed at all. my boy yeosang in ravenclaw is everything , during the icy m/v and dance practice yeji had braids (? I didnt realize that Super Junior was actually a powerful group with super fans, and when I did realize, well to be honest I didnt care much. due to the purity/morality culture that's been permeating fandoms since circa 2010, there are "right" and "wrong things to align yourself with, and if you align yourself with the "wrong" people will have no qualms in reminding you of that. He praised Taemin's androgynous looks, and that's what Taemin is known for. it's not lie that super junior are past their peak. Shindong said the truth. so what are you going to say that shindong was in the wrong to say that Taemin fit the concept is going for well ????? That's 15 years of misspeaking, missteps, wrong actions, ect that people have chosen to not move on from. jan. 3 2017 namjoon went on vlive making a kind of new years resolution: Ive never thought my behaviors and my musical words could hurt others or cause inconvenience to others. Taemin since going solo is aiming for the androgynous look and perspective tbh. Fans also call it SuJu or SJ. more. men are people too. however, i did want to point out, that in fandoms (kpop and beyond), perception often takes place of reality. it's clear to me that people use morality as a cover-up rather than an actual reason, considering who they stan. We all loved the food and think the flavor profile is similar to Thai food. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. An article focusing on news about various topics coming from Korea for the month of May 2020. people in my circles seem legitimately surprised that ELF still exist, right before they turn judgmental. Copyright 2023 KpopStarz.com. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. people need to stop doing that. bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. most of the members are in their 20s and 30s, the peak of their youth. Why is super junior problematic? : r/kpophelp - Reddit Why it's Perfectly Acceptable to Hate Super Junior: A Thread. Nevertheless, I get what he was trying to say, and it was a compliment. ", Thirdly, Heechul also spoke against Korea's hostility to Japan and describe it as "b*llshit.". i've got in arguments with a lot of these fake woke stans and when i point it out they stop replying me lmao. From Teens to Stars: Where is EXO Sehun's Close Friend Da Eun Now After Drifting Apart Cause of Jealous Fans? ive seen people calling out suju members for shit their own bias groups said/did, who theyre so quick to forgive but for suju, after literally a decade + members apologies, people still drag them. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. Super junior is problematic group izoniee; May 29th 2021; 1; 2 Page 2 of 2; bunnyviolet. 60-61, 116, 278, 464, 489-490) | [Special MC] (Ep. Saying that he does not like fat girls because he likes girls that take care of their bodies. The poor guy always cops it. happens the same with big bang for me. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. they do still bring in money to SM which is why SM invests money (no matter how little) into making them comeback. Besides Kangins crime, none of the scandals theyve been involved in has been anything beyond attitude problems (like Kyuhyun) or some social faux pas. We were only offered 15% off the bill and our drinks free when we complained. this is also not a comment on them as individuals or as a group, but a personal observation on the kpop fandom. This is what irks me every time Shindong opens his mouth. i mean sure i get that, but op literally replied stop being creepy and delulu to this exact post: There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking., Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. Jane Krakowski. thank you. when you keep getting over and over in scandal then there might be a reason to hate. 10 K-pop Idols Dominating 2023 With Their Multi-million Dollar Empires: JY Park, G-Dragon, More. He is also a television host and a musical actor and is one of the first four Korean artists to appear on Chinese . The food was delicious and the service prompt and friendly. Junior Campaign Manager. P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! One of their strong point is without a doubt their speak, that's why they're called variety kings. bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. While watching the video I was immediately struck by Shindong who did not match the usual physique of a Kpop idol. the members have actually messed up and its great that people call them out for it, because thats how theyll learn but suju hasnt done anything that others havent. I always found it strange that people use sujus age to drag them SO OFTEN, especially with all that super senior stuffkyuhyun is literally the same age as changmin and I never see this argument being used against tvxq. because of the way super junior is framed in people's minds, people see things that aren't there when it comes to them. The fact that Shindong can say this on public television and think that, its okay. like if you say "i dont think this is pedophilia" they can easily turn it on you and say "oh, so you don't beleive victims? so while thinking this, i realized there were some very obvious reasons under the guise of "super junior are bad and that's that" and i listed them below. ), jan. 2021 took pictures with a nazi statue, sinb said sowons name in her phone was kitler which is a combination between sowons name and hitler, on a variety show the members were seen mocking african hairstyles by twisting their hair and making noises. . that's the only reason to continuously bring up "bad behavior" even if it occurred seven years ago. If you are a resident of another country or region, please select the appropriate version of Tripadvisor for your country or region in the drop-down menu. Turns out Shindong is a sexist who fat shames. A/N: The next group is ATEEZ. Heechul then admitted that Kangin truly f*cked up and that he deserved all the criticism he is getting. In every 1000 words, 1 of them is bad. Florence Welch (Florence and the Machine) Hilary Duff. Honestly Im at a lost of words for this group. 188. My son booked a table for my birthday and we had an excellent meal and the restaurant made a special effort with my dessert. This along with acts of black face and homophobia generates more publicity for this group, regardless if its bad because there is no such thing as bad publicity. I hope people stop giving them so attention soon. You can use them to display text, links, images, HTML, or a combination of these. this framing of super junior is personal to a lot of people in this fandom. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. Netflix Korea unveils full line-up of their upcoming original series this 2023! We were served what looked like cat meat in potato water and the satay (peanut sauce) closely resembled gunk. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. that pissed me off so much, gg stans use the words pedophile and harassment so loosely it's disgusting. izoniee Worldwide Phenom Reactions 2,050 Posts 4,028 entries 1 May 29th 2021 #9. LIST OF ALL SUPER JUNIOR PROBLEMATIC THINGS - YouTube Tripadvisor performs checks on reviews. Aside from their fat shaming theres been instances of black face (Shindong) and homophobia. thats my goals., june 12 2017 namjoon posted photos of his debut hair, june 27 2017 during bon voyage jin in his letter to jungkook said that his face had gotten a lot darker during the trip so once they got back to korea he would give him a sheet mask to fix his skin, sept 21 during a knowing bros episode namjoon said he would have looked good with locs and so would one fo the men on the show, sept 22 2017 during the mic drop comeback dna performance jhope had braids. insulting their body type won't help anyone. She also has nothing but kind words and said that they were kind to work with. What went WRONG with Super Junior members? - YouTube LMAO, LEETEUK I HEECHUL I YESUNG I SHINDONG I SUNGMIN I EUNHYUK I DONGHAE I SIWON I RYEOWOOK I KYUHYUN. Suwon is some homophobic trash and leetuk is some crazy weird when it comes to young female idols (yet the industry still lets him work with them?!?). Your browser has JavaScript disabled. It was hammered into us by the adults that anyone caught doing this would be banned from the premises and sent home immediately. So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. That's so normal, we're human, Suju is human too. There's nothing in this to be mad about, twitter stans regardless of which fandoms creates issues out of non issues and this is one of them, though I'm not seeing any fellow Shawols of mine hating on him on tlist so it's probably just some edgy kpop stans hating on him. Never seen anyone in kpop as openly anti-lgbt as Siwon. 3. also, with this comeback i've seen a lot of people apologizing to their mutuals for wanting to like them like? 1. super junior are old men -- i don't think super junior are old. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened.